=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= EDline Vol. 4, no. 37 (21 November 1999) Editorial mailing list Published by the Electric Editors =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Contents: Q & A---previous queries [2ix] Protologue [2iy] Cross-referencing Q & A---new queries [2iz] Proper names [2ja] E-vocabulary [2jb] Spelling in folk tale FYI [3fc] Society of Indexers discussion list [6] Just for fun [7] Miscellaneous Books for sale [8] Administration =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ---[2] Q & A --------------------------------------------------- ** [2ix] Protologue Date: Thur, 4 Nov 1999 From: Sulaiman Adebowale, sulaiman.adebowale@codesria.sn Claire Heath wrote: > Can anyone give me a definition of the word 'protologue', as > in, to quote the au, > > "Bentham used the epithet 'omalophylla' in the protologue. > Later he changed this to 'homalophylla', which is etymo- > logically more correct." Webster Third (1986) has the word "protolog" and descibes it as "the original description of a species" Can we regard "protologue" as the British variant of the word? It seems to fit in with the quotation you cited. --------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 From: Norman Grossblatt, NGrossbl@nas.edu Claire Heath asked about the definition of "protologue". It means the original description of a species. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ** [2iy] Cross-referencing Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 From: Neville Hankins, nevhankins@compuserve.com Does anyone know of a decent source on the fundamentals of cross-referencing (to be inserted within the text, that is, NOT the index)? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ** [2iz] Proper names Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 From: Robert Webb, pluto@plutobks.demon.co.uk What are other people's rulings on spelling proper names? For example international organisations and institutions? In a manuscript which follows a British-English style with --ise endings should, for example, World Health Organisation, International Labour Office and UN Development Programme be spelled World Health Organization, International Labor Office and UN Development Program? I recall learning years ago that such names generally follow American-English spellings, because the organisations are American in origin. But in many cases they are now generally spelled to comply with the volume style. Fine, I don't suppose the WHO or ILO will be offended, but how far should this ruling be followed? When referring to the British Labour Party, American publishers tend to spell it Labor Party, which just seems wrong. Similarly British publishers (and newspapers) often spell the US Defense Department and the World Trade Center as ...Defence... and ...Centre. All this seems to contravene the generally accepted rule that one respects the spelling of a proper name (unless it is being anglicised from another language). If my name is Mr Grey, I would not expect to become Mr Gray in the US. So when is a proper name not a proper name? Butcher is vague about this. ----------------------- Date: Thur, 18 Nov 1999 From: Jane Kerr, bywater@zetnet.co.uk I always try to respect the 'official' spelling of organisations' names, but it can be a bit like swimming against the tide - I've sometimes seen my carefully preserved -ize spellings 'corrected' by a proofreader to bring them into line with the prevailing style in a book. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ** [2ja] E-vocabulary Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1991 From: Glen Wheeler, editor@greyowltutor.com > From James Stone: This sentence appears in The Web Report: "The major network stocks led the non-eTailers through a continued rally this week." Can anyone upgrade the language with a new word? ----------------------- Date: Thur, 18 Nov 1999 From: Jane Kerr, bywater@zetnet.co.uk I have witnessed such horrors as 'ehealth' and 'elife' recently. Apart from the inherent ugliness of such words, the 'e' doens't really seem to add much to the meaning. The term 'ehealth', for example, was used simply to refer to health information available on web sites - i.e. the same sort of information that is available in other media, for which we don't seem to require any special words. I very much hope that this is merely a fad that will soon die out. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ** [2jb] Spelling in folk tale Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1991 From: Faith Gildenhuys, fgilden@home.com I am annotating folk tale collected at the end of the 19th century a variation on the Cinderella theme, called "Cap o' Rushes." In it, the sisters and the Cinderella character, so transformed that is she not recognizable, go to a series of balls. The sisters tell their stay-at-home stepsister about the beautfiul stranger at the ball: "You did miss a sight, Cap o' Rushes, the beautifullest lady you ever did see, dressed right gay and ga'." Do you think "ga'" is simply "gay"? The tale is available on the web at: < http://www1.pitt.edu/~dash/salt.html#rushes > ---[3] FYI --------------------------------------------------- ** [3fc] Society of Indexers discussion list Date: Thur, 11 Nov 1999 From: Christine Headley, chps@globalnet.co.uk The Society of Indexers has set up a new email discussion list, called SIdeline. The list is a "closed" one, open only to SI members. You can subscribe by sending an email message to Christine Headley, the Society's list manager, at chps@globalnet.co.uk. There is no automatic subscribing system - Christine will send your email address to the list supervisor, who is responsible for adding and removing subscribers, so there may sometimes be a delay of a few days before you start to receive messages. The list is hosted by Sheffield University - and we are grateful to Dave Miller, of the Department of Information Studies, who has agreed to sponsor the Society and be our list supervisor. Messages to the list should be addressed to: sideline@sheffield.ac.uk - any email sent to this address will be automatically and immediately forwarded to all (and only) the members of the list. Subject areas covered may include anything related to indexing, the business side of indexing, and Society matters. ---[6] Just for fun ------------------------------------------- Anagrams From: B. J. Sutton, jastext@mnet.fr An Anagram, as you all know, is a word or phrase made by transposing or rearranging the letters of another word or phrase. The following are exceptionally clever: Dormitory Dirty Room Evangelist Evil's Agent Desperation A Rope Ends It The Morse Code Here Come Dots Slot Machines Cash Lost in 'em Animosity Is No Amity Mother-in-law Woman Hitler Snooze Alarms Alas! No More Z's Alec Guinness Genuine Class Semolina Is No Meal The Public Art Galleries Large Picture Halls, I Bet A Decimal Point I'm a Dot in Place The Earthquakes That Queer Shake Eleven plus two Twelve plus one Contradiction Accord not in it This one's truly amazing: To be or not to be: that is the question, whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. And the Anagram: In one of the Bard's best-thought-of tragedies, our insistent hero, Hamlet, queries on two fronts about how life turns rotten. And for the grand finale: "That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind." Neil Armstrong The Anagram: "A thin man ran; makes a large stride, left planet, pins flag on moon! On to Mars!" ---[7] Miscellaneous ------------------------------------------ Books for sale Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 From: Mary Fox, mary@mfox.demon.co.uk A friend bought books on editing but her circumstances changed before she even opened them. She has two sitting doing nothing and is looking for a home for them. Any offers? For Sale: Basic Editing A Practical Course by Nicola Harris, The Text and The Exercises. Brand new. Sensible offers please, to include P+P (about GBP3.80). Ann Green: 01600 860208 Fx: 01600 860839 e-mail: lloysey@compuserve.com ---[8] Administration ------------------------------------------ EDline provides the opportunity for a weekly online discussion of matters editorial and editorial business. * POSTING MESSAGES TO THE LIST All messages to be posted to the list should be sent to Jane Kerr, at: bywater@zetnet.co.uk Include as the subject line, "EDline [topic]", where [topic] is the subject under discussion. Topics might include areas such as Grammar, Spelling, American English or Punctuation. Messages should be pertinent to the basic premise of the list; they may be withheld, or redirected if more pertinent to one of the other mailing lists. 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