=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= EDline Vol. 6, no. 6.18 Editorial mailing list (digest version) Published by the Electric Editors =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Contents: Q & A [2of] Polestar [2og] Regnal dates [2oh] The "pound" or "hash" or "square" key? FYI [3gi] Announcing a new list for discussion of e-books [3gj] Call for papers: On Editing Business matters [4ek] Experience and information on e-books [4el] Finding a local freelance copy editor [5] Bookmarks [6] Just for fun [8] Administration =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ---[2] Q & A --------------------------------------------------- ** [2of] Polestar [Cross-posted from LANGline] Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 From: Carola Crosse, ccrosse@gmx.net I have a question concerning an English quote found in a German text by Arno Schmidt (in the text "Nebenmond und rosa Augen"). It is this: "Now the pole-star's red and burning, and the witch'e's spindle's turning." Strange spelling, okay, but has anyone any idea where this is from? Or who it might be from? Or where to look? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ** [2og] Regnal dates Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 From: Bob Davenport, bob@bobdavenport.freeserve.co.uk Has anyone come across a convention for indicating that the dates given after a monarch's name are those of his reign rather than his life? The (to me) obvious 'r.' doesn't seem to be recognized by any of my reference books, and inserting 'reigned' seems rather clumsy when several such dates are give within a few lines. ---------------------- Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 From: Patti Ordower, pordower@libertyfund.org I was puzzled by "r." the first time I saw it, but I've seen it used in several books since then. It isn't in my desk dictionary, but it is in the 14th edition of _Chicago Manual of Style_, which is the standard used by my company. ---------------------- Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 From: Christine Headley, chps@globalnet.co.uk If you are confused, you can get the impression that some kings died very young, and somehow managed to produce heirs! If it comes up in prose rather than a table, I would consider putting 'reigned (r.)' the first time and r. thereafter. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ** [2oh] The "pound" or "hash" or "square" key? Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 From: Iain Brown, iain.brown@ucl.ac.uk Re: Piffling trifles, no. 3 > The symbol on the "pound" key (#) is called an octothorpe. The use of the term 'pound key' is unknown to me. I know the symbol as the hash key (#). More confusingly, I have heard the same symbol described as the 'square' key on the telephone keypad. How do EDliners in the US, Canada, New Zealand and Australia describe this key/button? Does the usage differ according to what piece of equipment -- telephone, computer -- is being used? ---[3] FYI ----------------------------------------------------- ** [3gi] Announcing a new list for discussion of e-books Date: Thurs, 3 May 2001 From: Sue House, schouse@glam.ac.uk [Cross-posted from LIS-Link] < Lis-e-books@jiscmail.ac.uk > I would like to announce the setting up of a new discussion list primarily intended for the use of UK academic librarians and other interested parties to discuss the new and exciting developments that are happening in the world of e-books. Have you attended suppliers demonstrations and have comments and suggestions you'd like to share with others? How will this affect our traditional library bookstock? Will these services be accessible to visually impaired users? Would you like to advertise a forthcoming e-book event? I'm sure there are lots more areas for discussion that you can think of to start the ball rolling. I hope this list will be a useful arena for sharing views and experiences. If you would like to subscribe please go to < http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/lis-e-books.html > click on 'Join or leave the JISCmail list (or change settings)' and fill in the boxes provided, then click on the 'Join the list' button. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ** [3gj] Call for papers: On Editing Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 From: Claire MacDonald, onediting@hotmail.com [Cross-posted from SHARP-L] Call for contributions Performance Research 7.1: On Editing On Editing will be Volume 7, Issue 1 of Performance Research and will be jointly edited by Claire MacDonald and guest editor William Sherman. Editors play a crucial role in the creation and transmission of performances and their texts. Traditionally, the methods of editing and the assumptions that lie behind them have tended to be invisible. But more recently the practices of editors (whose job it is, according to Fredson Bowers, 'to judge and to choose') have come under scrutiny. New technologies have made possible new kinds of editing and exposed both the strengths and weaknesses of print. And texts have been shown to be less stable and more social than we might have thought - revealing surprising affinities with performances, whose liveness has often been mobilised against text-based cultural forms. For this issue, we invite contributions that explore the place of editing in the relationship between performance and publication (in digital, sound and visual media as well as in print). We are also interested in how the work of editors is related to other mediating and shaping roles - including curating, directing and dramaturgy - and to questions of censorship and intellectual property. Artists can themselves be editors throughout the process of making work: for instance, artists have often worked with found material, and incorporated the process of creating a work into the final product. We would therefore encourage contributions from artists and critics that address the role of editing within the artistic process. We see potential in this issue for conversations between textual studies and performance studies, for reassessments of new technologies and the legacy of print culture, and for new perspectives on the changing economics and politics of publishing in the field of performance. We are particularly interested in proposals for visual and textual work that makes use of the resources of the page, and in work that may use several versions of a text. In addition to full-length essays, contributions can take the form of scores and other performance documents, interviews, discussions, review essays (of performances, digital work, and books), and collaborations between artists and critics. Deadlines are as follows: Proposals 30th July, 2001 Finalised copy 1st October, 2001 Publication Date March 2002 Potential contributors are encouraged to discuss their ideas with the editors in advance of submission. Proposals and articles will be accepted on hard copy, disk or by e-mail and should be sent to: On Editing 185 Sturton Street Cambridge CB1 2QH England onediting@hotmail.com ---[4] Business matters --------------------------------------- ** [4ek] Experience and information on e-books Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 From: Anna Umberto, LncHoward9@aol.com As a small specialist publisher who struggles with the cost of printing and outrages tax demands, I am keenly interested in e-books. I specialise in Australian history, women's history, child migrant history, (all grass roots based on interviews although I have two masters degrees with high distinction), and handbooks of the helpful kind (eg gardening without back ache, 200 easy bus group tours). I do well with a 3, 6 or 10 thousand print runs in hard copy and always receive about 70 appreciative letters per book, but the financial side is crippling. I'd be very interested to share experiences/markets and learn any information about e-books for future publication. In Australia, the challenges with hard copy are: 1 small population; 2 imported books from USA and UK which are very cheap; 3 Government's definition of 'small business' is 5 million turnover, so tax demands are gross; 4 it is dicey employing people because you are expected to be a miniature welfare state and don't have that sort of capital; 5 distribution is very expensive. I am only successful because I burn the midnight oil unpaid as I love writing/designing - it's what I do!! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ** [4el] Finding a local freelance copy editor Date: Thurs, 10 May 2001 From: Sue Gwinllan, Suegwinllan@aol.com I need some help finding a local freelance copy editor, local to Powys, Wales, that is. I have run a typesetting business for twenty years and it is getting harder and harder to find work, now publishers want project managers, to handle to whole production process, hence the need. Wouldn't some good proofreaders either, any offers? ---------------------- Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 From: Anna Umberto, LncHoward9@aol.com Why ask online editors to be local????!!! ---[5] Bookmarks ---------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 From: Conrad Taylor, conrad@ideograf.demon.co.uk E-books: an InfoDesign-Cafe discussion about their usability potentials and problems < http://www.epsg.org.uk/meetings/may01/usable-ebook.html > A four-page PDF file can also be retrieved from this URL. ---[6] Just for fun -------------------------------------------- Piffling trifles, no. 4 The dot over the letter 'i' is called a tittle. ---[8] Administration ------------------------------------------ EDline provides the opportunity for an online discussion of matters editorial and editorial business. 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