=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= EDline Vol. 8, no. 87 (8 September 2003) Editorial mailing list (digest version) Published by the Electric Editors =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Contents: Q & A [2yl] "Is" or "is" in titles? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ---[2]-- Q & A -------------------------------------------------- Date: Thurs, 4 Sept 2003 From: Sheila O'Kelly, okellyhs@indigo.ie Susan Bramson wrote: > What about articles- a, and, the? I thought they were always > lower case in titles. David Ibbetson replied: > Not if they are part of a name. > > Error in The Times David Kenning wrote: > I've generally been led to believe that The Times is a special > case and that all other newspapers take a lower case 'the' in > running text, including headlines. In Ireland the common practice is: if you are writing about your own newspaper in your own newspaper it is The Irish Times. But if you are writing about any opposition newspaper it is lower case. So when I worked at The Irish Times we used the Irish Independent. Egotism gone mad or what! ---------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Sept 2003 From: Beck Laxton, becklaxton@yahoo.com I used to work on music magazines, and we had the same query about whether to say The Beatles or the Beatles (and all the similar band names). My editor's ruling was that you used a lower-case t, because when a reader sees a capital 'The', they expect it to be the start of a sentence; if it's mid-sentence they get slightly misled. Mid-sentence capitals get very wearing, too: they're a distraction. And for a word so unimportant, this seems a bad idea. So we stuck to lower-case ts for anything called the something. I use the same rule for newspapers. ---------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Sept 2003 From: Katie Lewis, katie@farnfilm.com Beck Laxton wrote: > My editor's ruling was that you used a lower-case t, because > when a reader sees a capital 'The', they expect it to be the > start of a sentence; if it's mid-sentence they get slightly > misled. They'll have changed that for The The, presumably. ---------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Sept 2003 From: Caroline Petherick, caroline@the-wordsmith.co.uk I would go for whichever version the owner of the name preferred. ---------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Sept 2003 From: Beck Laxton, becklaxton@yahoo.com Caroline Petherick wrote: > I would go for whichever version the owner of the name > preferred. ... but the owners of the name *always* want a capital letter. One step on from that, and they're putting their brand name all in capitals, like AIR MILES, in an attempt to give it even higher status. ---------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Sept 2003 From: Robert Ritter, robert.ritter@oxcis.ac.uk Periodicals especially often have a house style governing how their name appears in print within their own publication, ranging from capitalization of the definite article to capitalization of the whole name, or small caps or bold, or a separate typeface altogether. There are different approaches to how one standardizes these things as a third party, free from corporate posturing. Oxford style, which used to be a bit quirky on this, is now normalized to capitalizing any definite article in a two-word periodical, but not capitalizing (or italicizing) it in longer titles; cf. *The Times*, *The Economist*, *The Library*, but the *Sunday Times*, the *Bombay Times*, the *New Yorker*. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= END OF EDline 8.87 E-mail address for posting messages or replies: < edline-digest@electriceditors.net > Admin page: < http://www.electriceditors.net/edline/admin.htm > ** The views expressed in this mailing list are strictly those of the individual contributors, and do not necessarily reflect the views of the moderators or of the Electric Editors. ** Articles (c) 2003, by individual contributors Design (c) 1996--2003 Iain Brown Compilation (c) 2003 Iain Brown / The Electric Editors =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=