=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= EDline Vol. 9, no. 6 (7 March 2004) Editorial mailing list (digest version) Published by the Electric Editors =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Contents: Q & A [2zo] Why italicise ship names? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ---[2]-- Q & A -------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 March 2004 From: Michelle Barson, michelleb@games-workshop.co.uk Can anyone please tell me the origins of the convention of italicising ship names? I understand this is standard in the English language but cannot find the reasoning behind it... is it perhaps to do with having attached a gender to ships, ie, they are female in our eyes? Why ship and vehicle names but not, say, building names? I'd be very grateful for any assistance as I have been asked this by some staff members and cannot find the answer anywhere. ------------------------- Date: Thurs, 4 March 2004 From: Kathleen Lyle, edserve@klyle.demon.co.uk It's a convention, it doesn't have to have a reason! Seriously, I imagine it may have arisen because ships are often named after people, real or mythological. A sentence such as "Ulysses was 10 miles away" or "Franklin D. Roosevelt was just coming into view" could be misinterpreted if you didn't italicize the name. (I don't know if there is a ship called FDR, but it sounds a likely name for a US aircraft carrier.) ------------------------- Date: Thurs, 4 March 2004 From: Chris Shaw, Chris.Shaw00@BTinternet.com Kathleen Lyle wrote: > a ship called FDR, but it sounds a likely name for a US > aircraft carrier. Spot on. USS _Franklin D Roosevelt_ was indeed an aircraft carrier. See < http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-f/cvb42.htm > ----------------------- Date: Fri, 5 March 2004 From: Robert Ritter, Robert.Ritter@oxcis.ac.uk In the end it all comes down to convention---and a reasonably recent one, too: none of this was standard practice even a hundred years ago. It would be nice to think that someone chose italics for ships' names to avoid confusion with real names, but in practice the names of most ships aren't of people, and typography tends not to be that intentionally kind. One could accomplish the same thing by bunging it into quotes (as in the past), and anyway ships named after people are usually preceded by a definite article, which would avoid any possible confusion even without italics or quotes: 'Queen Elizabeth II boarded the Queen Elizabeth II'. (Yes, I know some people's names start with a definite article, and it is precisely these people who habitually have ships named after them, but malicious indeed is the editor who intentionally kludges together an undifferentiated 'The Princess Royal was examined by The Princess Royal'.) One could concoct an overarching logic---that a ship's name is a title unique to it and, like the titles of other things (books, films, periodicals, albums, spacecraft, works of art, etc.), it is common in print to italicize and capitalize it. Classes, models, or types of things tend to be roman capped, and only nicknames, or ad-hoc designations applying to more than one thing within a class, model, or type, tend to be in quotes. So: 'Charles "Lucky Lindy" Lindbergh flew the *Spirit of St Louis*, a redesigned Ryan M-2 monoplane powered by a single Wright J-5C "Whirlwind" engine.' =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= END OF EDline 9.6 E-mail address for posting messages or replies: < edline-digest@electriceditors.net > Admin page: < http://www.electriceditors.net/edline/admin.php > ** The views expressed in this mailing list are strictly those of the individual contributors, and do not necessarily reflect the views of the moderators or of the Electric Editors. ** Articles (c) 2003, 2004, by individual contributors Design (c) 1996--2004 Iain Brown Compilation (c) 2004 Iain Brown / The Electric Editors =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=